First off I use the word slave for a specific group of submissive yes I do believe there is a great difference. The word slave for me is more an act of enslavement. They have lost a battle or war or have been captured . Whether through a Dominants' ability to capture them by words and actions or by their own mind betraying them. The slave falls into a role they have defined and never wish to leave it they are close to or have been tamed, that spirit and will lies mostly with the master in regards to their decision making of the BDSM lifestyle and the dominants will also hold a great deal of power in the vanilla decisions of the slave . This does not mean they are broken nor under the thumb of all just their Master's.
My answer to my title questions; no one can be totally trained unless they are totally broken what is referred to as a doormat.Slaves can be 90% trained that you do not need to rehash rules and if one is broken they with a word will resume the proper role. The sub I feel cannot , the commitment to the lifestyle is too greatly influenced by what others think , commitments to vanilla life commitments to their own sense of being. Fear of totally letting go of control and giving it over to some one else. I will not delve as to why I just say there is a difference.
The slaves I have had will curl at me feet and expect nothing more from me a submissive has great needs then that. I have great pleasure in having a slave and that drives me to give them the pleasure they so desperately seek. I also after a while will ask and accept good impute from a slave as they think on the lines of what they can do to please their dominant. A submissive and I know this through personal experience will do things to gain pleasure for themselves either by pleasing the dominant or antagonizing them. Small rule breaks , semi flippant answers not conforming to the wishes of the master.
So for me a good slave can be fully trained and errors by them are true errors. A submissive cannot they look for ways to increase the desire for their pleasure and will break rules act coy and antagonize till they get it .
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to quote you..
"will break rules act coy and antagonize till they get it . "
and what if the submissive doesn't get it??
morningstar (owned by Warren)
In my experience they will try other ways but if left not satisfied they will become sullen , rebellious and antagonistic.
Continued behavior in a relation will cause problems. Both the Master and the submissive can have unreal expectations. I have found the best thing for this is having a free time for the slave/submissive to speak their mind freely. I do not put voice restrictions on anyone but this should be a special time of sitting eye to eye and talking not about the sessions or what to try next instead should be how they are feeling about the relationship. Master and slave/submissive must realized that in todays world naked slaves are seldom found on public, they naked mistakes and errors streets and Masters cannot be expected to perform every time the slave/sub desires.
This is a lifestyle of extremes with rules written by our own hands. all we have to be is consistent.
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